These guys are absolutely wonderful. I wish EVERYONE who is hard of hearing could talk with Bernie about devices that can help you hear better!!! My dad is deaf, and Bernie has been helping us for years as we try to find the right combination of hearing devices so that my dad can be included in conversations. These devices are IN ADDITION to hearing aids. If you know anyone who is having trouble hearing, do everyone in the family a HUGE favor and talk to BERNIE!!!